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  Conversation with my JW co-worker!

  by Kool Jo in

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  good day...so this is the conversation i had with a co-worker of mine i mentioned in an earlier thread...shes a jw and doesnt know that i was associated with the jws before and that im a fader.

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  sounds like she was rehearsing a part for a convention demo...

  Oz

  total avoidance of everything you had to say
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  New Girl

  by excitesinceredetermination in

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  hello to everyone :) i wanted to introduce myself as a newbie.

  i was raised in and i am currently on active status due to most of my family being very much in, but i am so ready to be done and have felt that way for quite some time.

  internally i know this is not the right religion without a doubt.

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  welcome new girl

  I am so excited by all the 'newbies' lately!

  oz
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  whats's with these annoying underlined key words??

  by Aussie Oz in

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  any body else notice that here on jwn and in fact, all over the internet there are these underlined key words that look like a link or something put in by the poster?.

  in fact it seems they are not, they link to bloody adds!.

  they are popping up all over the place and driving me nuts!.

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  Any body else notice that here on JWN and in fact, all over the internet there are these underlined key words that look like a link or something put in by the poster?

  In fact it seems they are not, they link to bloody adds!

  they are popping up all over the place and driving me nuts!

  Oz
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  You-are-too-dumb: Proper handling of nested magazines (BOE Letter)

  by pixel in

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  to all bodies of elders.

  re: proper handling of nested magazines.

  dear brothers:.

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  Idiots

  they set up an flawed procedure of shipping magazines and then have to issue detailed procedure on how to receive them.

  DUH...just dont 'nest' them in the first place!

  oz
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  Conversation with a Seminary Student in Starbucks today

  by Terry in

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  this is a distilled (and from memory) reconstruction of a chat this morning.... my 81 year old ex-baptist minister friend dub and i went to starbucks for coffee and conversation.

  dub likes to start conversations with strangers.. today a seminary student caught his eye.

  they talked for about half an hour before dub dropped me into it.

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  That Terry is cautious about people who claim they DO know god is not the focus of the post. To debate the statement about being cautious is to miss the point entirely!

  The point so far as i can tell is that the believer cannot prove anything beyond their own assertations.

  Oz
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  Experimenting With New Ideas since leaving the WT

  by lovelylil in

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  i have always been intrigued about why we dream and recently signed up for a course on dream interpretation.

  the course includes a great book written by sigmund freud.. this would have been oh soo taboo if i was still in the borg.

  probably would have been df'd for it.. was wondering how many others out there have studied a subject or experimented with new ideas that "mother" would not have approved of since leaving the org, and what you learned from it?

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  getting back to the subject of dreams...

  i wish there was a way to program what we will dream...or at least be able to record them for playback later!

  oz
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  Why did you pick the name you have now

  by label licker in

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  just wondering if your name describes what you saw, how you were treated when you were "in" or now "out", maybe your personality, ect.... i'm label licker and the why i picked this name was because of all the licking up one side of elders and down the other to either be an elder or ministerial servant.

  one time i was standing right in front of this brother who wasn't made an ms yet and he totally ignored me and talked right over my head speaking really loud trying to catch the co's attention.. got sick of watching the poor elderly sitting all alone or standing against the wall like a wall flower with noone to talk to and yet all these label lickers would take turns picking up the elders elderly parents and take them shopping and do their groceries at least four times a week while out in service, yet, there was noone there to take a meal to a sister who just got out of the hospital with a heart attack.

  when i had shown up at her apartment with a meal she asked if i could wash her private and change her bandages.

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  because i am Oz from Oz

  Oz
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  Another Rant by Whathehadas

  by whathehadas in

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  i try to be a positive person but sometimes i just can't help myself.

  the other day, i was looking at tv and this show was on mtv.

  the show was called, "when i was 17".

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  rant is right!

  Now, get it out of your system and move on. I mean that in the kindest way. You can remain trapped feeling like a victim and living a life of regret and bitterness or you can let go and move on with life.

  Yes they stole your youth, they did mine too, from 10 to 36. I had to enter the real world like i was 17 again. I have built a pretty decent life since i left and i wouldnt 'marty Mcfly' at all. Change one thing and probably the life i have now with the people i have now would not exist.

  It can be done, just don't compare yourself to other people. Not all worldlies are happy you know, sure they got to do all things you didn't but some are still messed up, many socially stunted for other reasons than religion etc.

  Time to stop seeing yourself as damaged. You get to grow up a little later than most, but you still get to grow up.

  Your Glass is half empty or half full...which is it to you?

  Oz
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  yet another newbie..

  by ragnarok75 in

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  i've been lurking here for some time and now that i've registered here's a little bit about myself... i'm in northern europe (so english is not my own language,but i have indeed studied it for more than 18 months) and i was born into this hateful cult in the "momentuous" year of -75.good that my parents stayed alive till then!.

  as far back as i can remember i had doubts both about the doctrines and the whole existence of god.however,i instinctively knew that these doubts are not to be mentioned.so i learned to be a fake at an early age.though having read many other stories here i realise how easy i got it.i now understand that we lived in a rather liberal area and also my family was quite liberal eventhough my dad was an elder since mid -80 and mom was really "strong in the truth".i never brought up the religion at school or with friends and was never bullied or anything.it helped that i was good at sports,especially football (soccer for americans) and football is also the source of my biggest hurt in childhood.i know it may sound very trivial,but the fact that i wasn't allowed to join a football team felt just so unjust and painfull and it lasted all through my childhood.whenever we had a new gym teacher,the first thing he asked me was which team do i play for.i was too embarrased to tell the truth and i just gave the impression that i only wanted to play for fun and not join any team.oh,how badly i wanted to!.

  somehow i managed to silence all those doubts and got babtised as a young man.very soon after the babtism i knew that it didn't have the hoped for effect of making me more spiritual and meetings and field service still felt an absolute bore.now began the long years of just "going through the motions".all my family (parents,many brothers and sisters,uncles and aunts,nieces and nephews) and most of my friends were in.i never reached out and attended only one or two meetings a week and penned my hours.i kind of liked my congregation (also,the seats at our kh were really comfy,so i often slept through the meetings) and made some very good friends.friends that - as you all can guess- didn't turn out to be so good in the end,but with whom i nonetheless had some good times and felt a strong connection to.. for a long time nothing happened that would've disrupted my rather non-eventfull life as a lacklustre jdub with at least another foot in the "world".i'd done many things that would've gotten me d'fed,but i never had any intentions of going to the elders about it and i had no pangs of conscience about it either.it was just a matter of convenience..i liked my witness friends,wanted to hold on to them and not to lose my family.. however..there was this girl... a (worldly,of course) girl that i had absolutely fell for and had a brief romance with many years ago.now she was back in my life.i must omit the proceeding turns of events for the sake of anonymity,but the end result is that i'm a proud father of a lovely baby girl.well,not so much baby anymore as she starts school soon.i love her so much and it gives me great satisfaction that she is growing free from any influence of vicious cults or of any gods for that matter.we live now in different countries but i see her often and there's always skype.. her birth also acted as a catalyst for the change in relationship between me and the society.i decided that i wanted to share the joy of her birth and existence with my family,eventhough i also knew that that would mean i'd have to go the elders too.if i didn't,they would,and that would result in automatic disfellowshippping.. a jc was duly formed and i had decided that i'm not going to go there and tell them that i regret her,as having her is the best thing that's ever happeded to me.

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  welcome!

  never to old to wake up...as a side note, tell your mother, with a laugh in your voice "oh mother, the paradise is THIS life you know, the WT paradise is just a silly dream"

  oz
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  They Are Just Like The Amish (But with Electricity)

  by OnTheWayOut in

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  i was describing jehovah's witnesses to a family member who had no idea whatsoever about them.

  i may be straightforward and describe things in terms i have learned since reading about cults, but i was not over the top in any way.

  i was simply stating the facts in a way that did not try to put any positive spin on anything.. my family member said, "so they are basically the amish but with televisions and electricity.

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  very much alike and different at the same time, while the JWs wont shun you for wearing your braces wrong way round, some of the more strict Amish will.

  but take the religion out of them and i could live like that...including no electricity. It is a shame that we cant unplug from the system and need money. Even if we dont use the mains water we still have to pay for it, the Amish strictness keeps them off the grid i guess.

  the funny thing with the amish though is that they have about 6 levels of amish bretheren and if one is to strict then move on to another.

  they do worse to their young than JWs do as far as preparing them for real life, which i am sure is why they stay, to damn scared and clueless to go anywhere else. As seen on a couple of TV docs on the Amish, they have the same troubles we do.

  oz